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eastend joker 8:04 Sat Jan 12
Carroll and Snodgrass

really impressed with these two today ,came on with about 25 to go and really worked the Arsenal back line ,this is a big step forward for our club having this sort of quality of the bench at a vital stage of the game ,i for one am in no hurry to lose Andy Carroll .

SDKFZ 222 8:43 Sat Jan 12
Re: Carroll and Snodgrass

I totally agree. I know he has had his problems, but he wants to stay with us and I am sure that a compromise can be agreed, even if performance or appearance related.

A pundit stated earlier in the week that there are few players with Carroll’s qualities. I’d be very sad to see him go. To me he has been the closest player to David Cross, one of my all-time favourites, whose aerial ability used to ruffle up various defenders.

lab 8:48 Sat Jan 12
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Carroll with 20 mins to go , a tired defender won't like it . In pellegrini we trust .

ironsofcanada 8:51 Sat Jan 12
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One thing to notice, the last team to score on us with Carroll on the pitch was Watford. 215+ minutes.

the exile 11:25 Sun Jan 13
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I must admit I said on here more than once I thought Carroll was finished, based on his first few performances since coming back from injury. I shall be very happy to be proved wrong. Good luck to him.

ironsofcanada 11:37 Sun Jan 13
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the exile 11:25 Sun Jan 13

I have defended him a lot over the years. I just didn't get as angry as some but I don't think he ever going to get back to what he could have been or even what he was.

Apparently (and rightly so) Pelegrini seems to think he contributes with a certain kind of minutes and you as you say he looks better and better in that role.

Whether that translates into a new contract, (and I feel bad saying this) I hope we have moved beyond that level even in our backups.

Hopefully for him I am wrong.

Sven Roeder 11:48 Sun Jan 13
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Carroll isn’t fit to clean David Cross’s boots
Am happy for him to have this role as a back up for the rest of the season but we have to move on after that.
He and Hernandez aren’t value for money and with Arnie on the hunt for Chinese tittles we should have a complete revamp up forward in the summer

the exile 11:59 Sun Jan 13
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I wouldn't mind Carroll getting some kind of short-term pay-as-you-play deal but anything else would be madness.

andyd12345 12:02 Sun Jan 13
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Agree with Sven. To get to where we want to be in the next few years (threatening the top 6) we simply can’t have someone like Carroll as our backup plan. He isn’t actually that great in the air, is clumsy, slows things down, invariably isn’t in the area which is the only place he can do any damage, and always seems one challenge away from a red card or an injury.

He served a purpose 5 years ago and he suited our style. But it’s plain to see the type of build up we want to play involves intricate touches in and around the area that suit Arnie, Nasri, Anderson, Hernandez, Lanzini etc. Carroll simply isn’t good enough to play that way.

Flogging Arnautovic and releasing Carroll in the summer gives us £220k a week and £40m to buy 2 decent young strikers. That’s what we need to be looking to do.

ironsofcanada 12:05 Sun Jan 13
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Sven Roeder 11:48 Sun Jan 13

"the hunt for Chinese tittles"

I read Arnautovic's hunt as something a little different initially, one reason to go, I guess, if that is your thing,

SUM A DING WONG 12:06 Sun Jan 13
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We all know that a fit, inform Carroll is an asset. Although he doesn't fit our style of play, i would keep him as he offers something different.

We also know, that he is mostly unreliable as fuck to be able to stay fit long enough to be of use.

Fuck, where am i going with this!!

If he miraculously stays fit, and contributes massively for the rest of our season, i wouldn't have a problem with him being kept on, on a lower wage and/or pay as you play deal.

, 12:23 Sun Jan 13
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We’ll keep Snoddy and release Carroll.

Tomshardware 12:28 Sun Jan 13
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Carrol is a big asset, holds the ball up so well and defensively is very good to have when defending set pieces. Snodgrass has been a key player for us this season.

Westside 12:58 Sun Jan 13
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Carol seems to be so much better, winning defensive headers, rather than attacking headers on goal/for knock downs. As others have said, quite an asset defensively, at set plays.

However, the wages he is on, he should be moved on, at end of the season.

62Hammer 1:04 Sun Jan 13
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As everyone says, Carroll certainly doesn't fit in with our style of play now, but there's nothing wrong with having an alternative, to mix things up a bit. You can almost sense defences wondering what to do when he comes on.

Yorkammer 1:13 Sun Jan 13
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Looks like Pellegrini's 'big club' mantra has really been taken on board by those who slag off Andy Carroll. A year ago he would have gone to Chelsea instead of Giroud had he not got injured. Seeking better for ourselves than what Chelsea wanted may be a little over ambitious at the moment. An extension on a pay for play type contract would be good.

CanningTownWA 1:19 Sun Jan 13
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andyd12345
Not knocking but I don't think you can get 2 quality strikers for 40M nowadays. I would be happy with one 40M striker though

, 1:49 Sun Jan 13
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Canning Town, you make a good point because to replace what Arnie brings to the table realistically costs as much as we will sell him for. And equal performance with Arnie is not guaranteed let alone an improvement.

Look at Southampton who embarked on the much vaunted Alec V project of selling high and buying cheap. In the end they are proving that you get what you pay for.

Mike the Hammer 2:14 Sun Jan 13
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The thing is that the game has changed in the last few years, what with 'contact' and referees only giving fouls if a player goes down, so AC's physical approach invariably leads to fouls, warranted but mostly otherwise, being given against us, and very rarely for us.
Though a positive is the way Pellegrini helped turn Antonio round, and AC's last couple of performances suggest he could be capable of doing the same...

North Bank 3:16 Sun Jan 13
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I read on one of the match threads the other week obviously after a defeat, plenty saying sell Snodgrass, Carroll, Ogbonna etc

What supporters have to realise is that these players are predominantly squad players and without them we would struggle, why would you want to sell them I just don't get it, you wouldn't raise much and couldn't replace them for the pittance you'd get

What we need to be doing is looking to replace the players in the first team with better players, that's how you improve the side

andyd12345 4:03 Sun Jan 13
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Canning - I didn’t say 2 quality strikers for £40m. I said 2 decent young striker. Abraham and Origi, big bags of potential, knows where the goal is, and would hold their value.

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